Women Priests?

Author: Fr. William Most

Women Priests?

by Fr. William Most

Were there women priests in the early Church? Professor Giorgio Otranto in his "Note sul sacerdozio femminile nell'antichita in margine a una testimonianze di Gelasio I: in 19 (1982), 342-60 concludes,"The data gathered on the priesthood of women in antiquity are few and meager".

The article was translated by Mary Ann Rossi, as: "Priesthood, Precedent, and Prejudice. On Recovering the Women Priests of Early Christianity" in , Spring, 1991, 7. #1, pp. 73-93. Otranto's sober and scholarly conclusion has been magnified by feminists. The translator in an introduction to her translation, says: "Those in favor of the ordination of women point to throughout the history of the church" [italics added]. She adds "The persistence or sexist bias among church officials from the first through the fourth centuries C. E. has been treated by feminist scholars." The footnote cites only one "feminist scholar", Rosemary Reuther, hardly a neutral observer. on May 29, 1968, p. 4 quoted her as saying: "... Catholic bishops have no monopoly on Christ, and the body of Christ may appear just as validly, if not more so in the Eucharist celebrated by a Negro woman around a kitchen table as in the one celebrated by the Pope in St. Peter's." The same writer contributed a paper to a symposium, edited by L. Swidler (Westminster, 1980). On p. 65 she said: "A new consensus could only come about if this traditional power [the Magisterium] could be deposed, and the church restructured on conciliar, democratic lines accountable to the people... . This is what Kung is really calling for: that the academy replace the hierarchy as the teaching magisterium of the church... . It entails the equivalent of the French Revolution in the Church... ."


The chief document brought forth by Otranto is an 14: 26 of Pope Gelasius, dated March 11, 494. The essential part as translated by Rossi (p. 81) is this: "Nevertheless we have heard to our annoyance that divine affairs have come to such a low state that women are encouraged to officiate at the sacred altars, and to take part in all matters imputed to the offices of the male sex, to which they do not belong." Otranto thinks this means some bishops had ordained women as priests.

In spite of the modest scholarly conclusion cited above that the favorable data are "few and meager", Otranto earlier speaks much more strongly than the evidence warrants. He notes that the Epistle was addressed" to all episcopates established in Lucania, Bruttium, and Sicilia." Now when the Vatican addresses a directive to a specified area, it has no force outside that area. Yet Otranto tries to make it refer widely (p. 83): "Gelasius probably intended to address problems that were not exclusive to the regions mentioned." That is a strange assumption. The evils mentioned are so serious that a Pope really ought to send a directive to all areas affected, not just to a relatively small region. Otranto tries to extend it by saying that earlier, Bishop John of Ravenna in the north had sent him to restore order in churches in various parts of Italy where there was an upheaval "caused by famine and by the war between Odoacre and Teodericus". But such evils as of a quite different kind from those of attempting to ordain women as priests. So Otranto seems to show bias here. He adds (p. 84) that "southern Italy was culturally connected with Greek and Byzantine areas where, from the third century, women exercised the diaconate... ." Even if that be true, a diaconate - the nature of which is far from clear, as we shall see later - is quite different from an attempted ordination of women as priests.

Otranto adds (p. 85) that we have evidence from St. Irenaeus of heretical Gnostic women priests and also of some in other erroneous sects, as shown by Firmilian of Caesarea and St. Epiphanius of Salamis. But they are called heretical sects by Irenaeus and Firmilian.

Private judgment or Magisterium?

Much more seriously, on p. 82, Otranto says that Pope Gelasius "does all this without ever entering into the merit of the question." This sentence is very revealing indeed. It seems to imply: If he had looked at the merits, he would have decided differently. But there are two ways to decide a theological question: 1) use private judgment. Then "the merits" are decisive. 2) Use the sources of revelation, as interpreted by the Church, which is the Catholic way. Otranto seems not to trust the divine protection given the Church. This attitude on his part fits well with what Rosemary Reuther said as cited by the translator of this article: the academy should replace the Magisterium. We need the equivalent of a French Revolution in the Vatican. To say that, entails lack of belief in the promises of Christ to protect the teaching of the Church. The authorities should look at merits, yes. But when that has been done, or even if it has not been done, the essential thing is the divine protection promised to the Church. It is on this that we should rely, not on unaided human reason. In our day many are making precisely such claims that the Pope ought to change doctrinal decisions because allegedly he did not sufficiently examine the merits of a case. We doubt if the Pope really failed to examine. But even if he did, Assent is required even when he is not defining if he deliberately publishes a decision on a matter then being debated among theologians, as we see in Vatican II (, #25 and in the of Pius XII (DS 3885).

Many others today also want to shift to the basis of arguments instead of following the teaching authority of the church. E. g. , in speaking of the ancient heresy of Gnosticism, many are saying, after the finds of the Nag-haamadi documents in l946-47, that there really were several kinds of orthodoxy in the early Church: the Bishops, being better politicians, won out. This is to show a sad lack of faith in the fact that Christ promised teaching authority to the Church, protected by His Holy Spirit. Vatican II strongly reaffirmed this, in the #10: "The task of authoritatively interpreting the word of God, whether written or handed on [Scripture or Tradition] has been entrusted to the living Magisterium of the Church, whose authority is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ" [italics added].

. Really, the evidences they offer for the existence of women priests are "few and meager" as even Otranto admitted. . There is no official document whatever from the Holy See or even a local council or from even one of the Fathers of the Church, that approves of the ordination of women as priests. Rather, that notion is constantly rejected. To say as Rossi does that it is just a matter of "disparagement and hatred of women" is beside the point. The reason for exclusion of women as priests is not at all hatred - it is doctrine, not hatred. This is why Pope Gelasius spoke so strongly, as Otranto put it (p. 82) "The harsh, insistent wording of the decree" which called the actions of bishops who seem to have attempted to ordain women "such disrespect for divine affairs(p. 82)". As Otranto continues, summarizing the Epistle, the Pope said this evil "seems to threaten not only their [the bishops'] own downfall, but also the tragic downfall of the whole church, if they do not come to their senses." Further, the Pope referred to previous canons of Councils, as Otranto reports on p. 83: "The canons to which Gelasius was probably referring were [canon] 19 of the Council of Nicea, 11 and 44 of the Council of Laodicea (second half of the fourth century), 2 of the Council of Nimes (394 or 396), 25 of the First Council of Orange (441), which prohibit women from participation in the liturgical service in any way or from being a member of the clergy." . As we said, in saying that Pope Gelasius had not examined the merits of the case, Otranto and the feminists reveal their thinking: It is not divine protection that is decisive, it is just human reasonings, supported by disobedience.

Objection: The Pope did not define

Should someone object that the Epistle of Pope Gelasius is not a solemn definition?. It is not, but it is an accepted theological principle that if something is taught repeatedly on the ordinary magisterium level, that too is infallible. The reason is that the repetition shows the intention to make the doctrine . Then as is clear from Vatican II, , #25 even internal assent is required. Now the teaching of Pope Gelasius is not isolated at all - it is in continuity with the teachings of four councils, including the first General Council, Nicea, which, as cited by Otranto,"prohibit women from participation in the liturgical service in any way, or from being a member of the clergy." These texts are in continuity with present statements of the Magisterium. The Doctrinal Congregation, on Oct. 15, 1976, said: "The Church's tradition in the matter has thus been so firm in the course of centuries that the Magisterium has not felt the need to intervene [with a definition] to formulate a principle which was not attacked." Pope Paul VI, on November 30, 1975, in a letter to Archbishop Coggan of Canterbury said: "Your Grace is of course well aware of the Catholic Church's position on this question. She holds that it is not admissible to ordain women to the priesthood, for very fundamental reasons. These reasons include: the example recorded in the Sacred Scriptures of Christ choosing His Apostles only from among men; the constant practice of the Church, which has imitated Christ in choosing only men; and her living teaching authority which has consistently held that the exclusion of women from the priesthood is in accordance with God's plan for His Church." As the Doctrinal Congregation said, over the centuries there was no attack - the disobedience of a few Bishops, reproved by the Pope, does not constitute an attack by way of teaching, only by way of disobedience.

Besides, as we indicated above, Pius XII, in (DS 3885), said that if a Pope deliberately publishes in his Acta a decision on something currently debated, it is removed from debate, and falls under the promise of Christ: "He who hears you, hears me." A promise of Christ cannot fail. Ergo.


Normally, as even Otranto implies, the word was used for the wife of a presbyter, as episcopa was used for the wife of a bishop, and deaconissa for the wife of a deacon. Hence, 4. 11, told of a priest, Nursinus,"who from the time of his ordination, loved his presbytera as a sister, but avoided her as if any enemy, never allowed her to come to him." The in Canon 19 said: "those who are called presbyteresses or presidentesses should not be established [the word used is -- cold also be translated as ] in the church." in 567 wrote:"If a presbyter be found with his presbytera or a deacon with his deaconissa or a subdeacon with his subdeaconissa, he must be considered excommunicated for a full year and removed from every clerical office." And Canon 13 of Tours said; "If an Episcopus does not have an episcopa, let no throng of women follow him."

To go against all this, Otranto offers a few bits, none of which are conclusive even in proving abuses. As he said

"The data... are few and meager". He found a tomb inscription in Tropea (South Italy - the place where Pope Gelasius complained of violations), of probably mid-fifth century, which said: "Sacred to her memory. Leta the presbytera lived 40 years, 8 months, 9 days, for whom her husband set up this tomb. She preceded him in peace on the day before the Ides of May." Otranto argues (pp. 86- 87) that the husband may not have been a presbyter himself, for he does not call himself that, so the term presbytera here might not mean - as it often does even according to Otranto - merely the wife of a presbyter. Otranto adds that when a presbyter prepares a tomb for a wife the word for her is usually .

So he has found one isolated gravestone calling a woman a presbytera, who may not have been merely the wife of a presbyter, thought that point is not certain. The stone was found in the very territory in which Pope Gelasius complained of abuses. So this really does not add anything to the evidence from the Epistle of Pope Gelasius.

Otranto adds another sarcophagus from Salona in Dalmatia, dated from 425, which reports that one Theodosius bought a cemetery plot from a presbytera Flavia Vitalia. But such a function as selling grave lots does not imply an attempt at priestly ordination even if the word used is presbytera. Hence this evidence is worth nothing.

Otranto also says, on p. 88, that there is a fragment of the cover of a sarcophagus from Salona in Dalmatia which has the letters dotae - he wishes to fill in the first part of the word so as to make it . This at most might be a case of the abuses reproved by Pope Gelasius.

Farther on, on pp. 90-92, Otranto quotes a text from Atto, bishop of Vercelli, between the 9th and 10th centuries, who speaks of the term presbytera as capable of meaning woman priest. What does this show? At most, that there may have been some further abuses later, in spite of the Epistle of Pope Gelasius. Atto himself strongly rejects women priests, as do all Fathers and Councils who speak of the matter.


After this evidence, for which he has scraped hard, he concludes (p. 89), as we cited it earlier: "The data gathered on the priesthood of women in antiquity are few and meager." And those that are found are contrary to the constant teaching of the Church, including the four Councils and Pope Gelasius, cited by Otranto, besides many texts of the Fathers strongly rejecting women priests. So by no means do they prove at all that the teaching authority ever even once approved of attempting to ordain women as priests. In fact, even if Otranto had found a hundred times as many texts, they would prove only that there were abuses - they would not prove at all that the Magisterium of the Church had ever approved of the abuses at all.

More from Councils and Fathers

As we saw, Otranto recognized that four Councils, Nicea, Laodicea, Nimes, and First Orange, rejected women priests or women ministering at the altar. Here are still more texts of the Councils plus the actual texts of the Fathers of the Church he referred to and additional Fathers.

The Council of Epaon, c. 517 AD said: "We completely reject the consecration of widows, whom they call deaconesses, from our region... ." The Sixth Council of Paris c. 829 AD, says it has learned "that in certain of our provinces, contrary to divine law and canon law, women of their own accord go to the holy altars, and boldly touch the sacred vessels, and give the sacred vestments to priests, and what is even more improper and unsuitable, they give to the people the body and blood of the Lord... . That women should not go to the altar is fully found in Canon 44 of the Council of Laodicea, and in the decrees of Pope Gelasius XXVI... ." Since the boldest thing is to distribute Holy Communion, we gather they did not attempt to say Mass.

Absolutely every time the FAthers of the Church have occasion to speak of such things, they strongly reject them, never approve.

Tertullian, in 41, says:"How wanton are the women of these heretics! they dare to teach, . to dispute, to carry out exorcisms, to undertake cures, it may be even to baptize." In his work 9. 1:"It is not permissible for a woman to speak in church, nor may she teach, baptize, offer, or claim for herself any function proper to a man, and least of all the office of priest."

St. Irenaeus, 1. 31. 2 tells of a certain magician Marcus who changed the color of the liquid in the chalice by an invocation himself, and "After this he gave women mixed chalices and told them to give thanks in his presence. Then he took another chalice much larger than that on which the deceived woman gave thanks, and, pouring from the smaller... to the much later. . the larger chalice was filled from the smaller chalice and overflowed."

Firmilian, in 75. 1-5 to Cyprian, tells of a woman who went into an ecstasy and came out a prophetess."That woman who first through marvels or deceptions of the demons did many things to deceive the faithful, among other things... she dared to do this, namely that by an impressive invocation she feigned she was sanctifying bread, and offering a sacrifice to the Lord."

Origen, in a Fragment of his commentary on 1 Cor 14:34 tells of the four daughters of Philip; who prophesied, yet they did not speak in the Churches. We do not find that in the Acts of the Apostles... . For it is shameful for a woman to speak in the church."

St. Epiphanius, 79. 304 wrote:"If women were ordained to be priests for God or to do anything canonical in the church, it should rather have been given to Mary... . She was not even entrusted with baptizing... Although there is an order of deaconesses in the church, yet they are not appointed to function as priests, or for any administration of this kind, but so that provision may be made for the propriety of the female sex [at nude baptisms]. Whence comes the recent myth? Whence comes the pride of women or rather, the woman's insanity?" In 49. 2-3 St. Epiphanius tells of the Cataphrygians, a heretical sect related to the Montanists. The Cataphrygians pretended that a woman named Quintillia or Priscilla had seen Christ visiting her in a dream at Pepuza, and sharing her bed. He took the appearance of a woman and was dressed in white."Among them women are bishops and priests and they say nothing makes a difference' For in Christ Jesus there is neither male nor female," [Gal. 3:"28]

St. John Chrysostom, in 2. 2 points out that Jesus said "Feed my sheep" only to Peter."Many of the subjects could easily do the things I have mentioned, not only men, but also women. But when there is question of the headship of the church... let the entire female sex retire." And in 3. 9 St. John wrote: "Divine law has excluded women from the sanctuary, but they try to thrust themselves into it."

St. Augustine, 27 also speaks of the Pepuzians mentioned by St. Epiphanius."They give such principality to women that they even honor them with priesthood."


Otranto has, at most, proved there were some abuses. He himself said, as we saw, that his data are "few and meager." But he adduced no evidence whatsoever to prove the Magisterium ever approved of the abuses. Rather, he recognizes four Councils spoke against them, and a few Fathers. We have added more.


We have just seen that Otranto has not proved at all that the Magisterium of the Church ever approved of attempting to ordain women as priests. What of deaconesses?

Before looking at the texts, we need to keep very clearly in mind :


1)At the Last Supper, Our Lord promised to send the Holy Spirit "to lead you into all truth (John 16:13 cf. 14:26). This did not mean He was to b ring new public revelations ( #4), but that He was to lead the Church into an ever deeper penetration into the deposit of public revelation given at the start. As a result, it is not strange - rather, it is to be expected - that in the early centuries we should not expect to find some points of doctrine developed nearly as clearly as they have since become. This is true in the case of the Sacrament of Holy Orders.

Even today the theology of Orders is not fully clear. We know there is only one Sacrament of Orders; we know that it imprints a character and so cannot be repeated. But what of the fact that we know today that deacons, priests, and bishops all have the sacrament of orders? How to explain is not fully clear. Not strange then that there would be some lack of clarity it the early centuries.

So if we would ask an official of the Church, or a layman, of the early centuries: do deacons receive a sacrament -they might easily say yes, or no. Thus, St. Hippolytus is quoted as saying, in Apostolic Tradition (cited from Jurgens 394c) about a deacons: "He does not receive the Spirit which the presbytery possesses and in which the presbyters share." Further, if we speak of someone as "receiving the Holy Spirit", what do we mean? We speak, rightly of a person as receiving the Holy Spirit at Confirmation, for strength. Really, a Spirit as such does not take up place: we say a spirit is present wherever he produces an effect so to say the Holy Spirit comes of or is present means: He is producing an effect in a certain person. What effect? In Baptism, it is making one basically capable of the vision of God. In Confirmation, it is strength to live according to Christ's principles "in the midst of a wicked and twisted generation (Phil 2:15). In ordination of a priest today, it means He makes the recipient conformed to Christ the Priest to such an extent that he can act "in persona Christi" when he says;: "This is my body, this is my blood," or when he says "I absolve you from your sins" etc. -- So it would be possible to invoke the Holy Spirit on someone for the sake of being more holy, or of carrying out the things usually assigned to a deacon, i.e., giving to the people the Precious Blood etc. It might mean, referring to a woman, to make her capable of worthily carrying out the duty of taking care of the doors of the church, or anointing the naked bodies of women for baptism etc.

Could a Priest Ordain a Priest?

Pope Boniface IX (DS 1135) on Feb. 1, 1400, granted to an abbot, who was not a bishop, the right to ordain subdeacons, deacons, and priests. The grant was revoked soon (DS 1146) at the request of the Bishop of London, who did not like it - no mention of invalidity. Pope Martin V (DS 1290) on Nov. 16, 1427 also granted to an abbot the right to ordain to the priesthood. Then Pope Innocent VIII on April 9, 1489 (DS 1435) granted to an abbot the right to ordain deacons - which we now consider as conferring a sacrament. The Council of Florence, in the Decree for the Armenians in 1439 (DS 1326) said: "The minister of this sacrament [Holy Orders] is the Bishop." In saying it could imply that a priest could be the minister. The Council of Trent in 1563 defined in Canon 7 on Holy Orders (DS 1777): "If anyone says that bishops are not superior to priests, or that they do not have the power of confirming and ordaining, or that that which they have is in common to them with priests... let him be anathema." But we would say bishops are superior to priests and do not have confirming and ordaining in common if the bishops have the ordinary power, while priest could be given the extraordinary power. And even today, when a priest is ordained in the Eastern rites of the Catholic Church, he automatically has the power to confirm - but a Latin priest would attempt that invalidly without a special grant from the Holy See. Even further, the words and were interchangeable for some time. In Acts 20: 17 & 28 St. Paul uses both words to refer to the same men. Pope St. Clement I, in his to Corinth in 44 & 54 does the same. St. Paul more than once calls himself a ("servant"): e.g., 1 Cor 3:5; 2 Cor 3:6. Rom 15:8 speaks of "Christ as a .

Vatican II, in the to explained:"In consecration [ of a Bishop] there is given an ontological participation of the sacred offices... The word offices is used purposely, instead of powers, because this latter word could be understood of direct empowerment to act. To have such a power, there must also b e a canonical or juridical determination by the hierarchical authority." Perhaps this is the explanation of the grants to abbots to ordain priests: priests do have the office, the basic power, but it needs determination by the Pope to a special group of people before it can be used. The case would be similar with the grant to power to confirm to eastern but not to western rite priests.

Is the Diaconate a Sacrament?

Even today some, improperly, question whether deacons receive the Sacrament of Holy Orders. Jean Galot, (, Ignatius, 1985, p. 189) says:"On the one hand, Vatican II favored the sacramentality of the diaconate... . it did not intend to disavow theologians who deny this sacramentality nor to resolve the issue once for all... ." Galot gives a note referring to G. Philips, (Paris, 1967, I. 379). But the doubts are out of order. Pius XII, in of Nov . 30, 1947 wrote (DS 3858):"It is evident that the Sacraments of the New Law must signify the grace with they bring and bring it about. Now the effect must be signified and so produced by the Ordination to the Priesthood and Episcopate, that is, power and grace, are found to be sufficiently signified in all the regions of the universal Church by the imposition of hands and the words that determine it." The Council of Trent defined ( DS 1774)"If anyone says that through sacred ordination the Holy Spirit is not given, and so that the Bishops say in vain,"receive the Holy Spirit,". . let him be anathema." Such words are said with the imposition of hands in the ordination of a Deacon (DS 3860). Vatican II, 16, in speaking of the restoration of the order of Deacon that the deacons "were joined more closely to the altar, so that they may fulfill their ministry more effectively through the sacramental grace of the diaconate." But, sacramental grace is that which comes from receiving a sacrament.

In view of the lack of clarity in some minds even today abut the sacramentality of the diaconate, it will hardly be surprising to find confusion many centuries before.


2) The very word is a special case of what we have just said. The Latin in pagan Latin meant the oath of allegiance a pagan soldier took to his military commander. Christians readily adapted it to mean allegiance to Christ. But then they enlarged the scope, so that it could mean anything sacred and/or mysterious. .


3)In any field of knowledge, it takes a long time to develop precise terminology except for those things for which words are coined on the spot. For other things, it is necessary to arrive at a general agreement to artificially limit the meaning of a word which in ordinary speech is rather broad. We saw this above in the case of the word . The matter is similar for and as we saw. It holds for many other words as well.

Thus is often taken to mean , and often it does. But basically, the dictionary meaning is to choose by a show of hands. In that sense, the people, in 15, are told to "choose bishops" for themselves. Of course, they did not ordain bishops. So, the word could mean imposition of hands - but not always - and even then we would have to determine what function was conveyed by that word.

Similarly the Greek , sometimes translated as , is very broad. It means basically to establish in a position.


Here are some of the chief texts on deaconesses;

Apostolic Constitutions 3. 26. 1-2 (c. 400AD):"Choose as a deaconess a faithful and holy woman for the ministry of women... For we need a female deaconess for many things, first, when women are baptized, the deacons only anoints their forehead with holy oil, and after the deaconess spreads it [all over] on them. For it not proper that women be seen by men." Ibid. 8. 28. 6: "A deaconess does not bless or do any of the things priests and deacons do. She just takes care of the doors and ministers when women are baptized, for the sake of propriety."

Council of Nicea, Canon 19: "We have mentioned the deaconesses, who are enrolled in this position, but since they have not received any imposition of hands at all, they are surely to be numbered among the laity."

Council of Chalcedon (452 AD) Canon 15 (From Greek text in Harduin II, 1714, cols 607-08):""A deaconess is not to be ordained [] before the age of forty and this with diligent examination. But if she received the imposition of hands and for some period stayed in the ministry, she gives herself to marriage, she has scorned the grace of God. Such a one is to be anathematized along with the one joined to her."

Chalcedon vs Nicea?

We notice of course, that there seems to be a clash between Nicea and Chalcedon, both general Councils. Now of course we must not suppose there is a real clash between two General Councils. So we recall the great vagueness of terminology we saw above on the words meaning ordain, and also on the very question of whether the diaconate for men is a sacrament. Today it is clear that it is. In the early centuries it was not really clear, as we saw especially in the text from St. Hippolytus who denied they receive the Spirit.

We conclude that Nicea speaks of the sacrament of Orders, while Chalcedon does not.

Some Eastern Rituals

Morin, , 1655, in reporting the practices of some Greek churches -- which seem not to have gotten into the west: "In the ordination of a Deaconess... . the woman to be ordained is led to the bishop, and he in a loud voice, saying the prayer 'Divine grace', imposes hands on the ordinand as she bows her head, and after making three signs of the cross, he prays thus: 'Holy and all powerful God, who by the birth of your only begotten Son our God from the Virgin according to the flesh sanctified the womanly sex, and granted not only to men but also to women the grace and coming of the Holy Spirit, now look, O Lord, upon this your maidservant, and call her to the work of your ministry and send upon her a rich and abundant gift of your Holy Spirit. Keep her in the true faith, in a life beyond reproach, always carrying out her ministry according to what is pleasing to you, for all glory and honor befits you. ' [after a prayer by one of the deacons] While this prayer is said by the deacon, the Archbishop similarly hold his hands over the head of the Ordinanda, prays thus: 'Master, Lord, who does not reject women consecrating themselves and wanting, as is proper, to minister to your holy houses, but you accept them into the order of ministers, give the grace of your Holy Spirit also to this your handmaid who wills to consecrate herself to you, and to carry out the diaconal ministry, as you granted the grace of your ministry to Phoebe whom you called for the work of this administration. Give to her, O God, to persevere without fault in your holy temples, to take great care of her manner of life, especially moderation and temperance. Further, make your handmaid perfect so that she, standing before the tribunal of your Christ, may receive the fruit of an excellent life, by the mercy and kindness of your Only begotten Son. ' After the Amen, he puts the orarium or diaconal stole on her neck."

A similar rite is found on p. 15 of Morin: "Give to her the Holy Spirit... so that she may worthily carry out the work imposed on her." We note there is only generic mention of her work - in the ordinations today, the functions are enumerated (cf. DS 3857-61). As to a stole - we recall that Abbesses received even something like a mitre, normally the mark of a Bishop, as did some Princes, yet they clearly are not Bishops.


We conclude that there never was an ordination in the strict sense of the Sacrament of Holy Orders for women as deaconesses. To conclude that there was, we would have to suppose a contradiction between two General Councils. We cannot do that. So Chalcedon was speaking in a broader sense, which is easily possible in view of the undeveloped and unclear theology of the day regarding deacons. That, as we said, is not surprising, since even today some, improperly, question whether male deacons receive the Sacrament of Orders.


Gal. 3:28: "There is not among you Jew or Greek, there is not among you slave or free, there is not among you male or female: for we all are in Christ Jesus."

COMMENTS: For centuries, the besetting fault in Scripture study was to take a text out of context: if the words could carry the desired meaning, the interpreter would say they did mean that. This habit was common among the Rabbis before the time of St. Paul. St. Paul himself often does quote OT out of context, though the meaning he gives is something true in itself. But today all competent scholars recognize we must pay attention to the context - an obvious requirement. Now in the context of Galatians, Paul is speaking of trying for justification by faith. So this text means that men and women are equal in trying for that. To extrapolate and say they are equal in everything, is to go far beyond St. Paul. Yet, a special report for the Catholic Biblical Association, published in CBQ of October 1979, goes back to the old error, says this supports ordination of women. They clearly have caved in to feminists.

1 Cor. 14:34: "The women must be silent in the churches. For it not permitted to them to speak, but to be subject, as the law says."

COMMENTS: There is much division of thought among exegetes on this passage: 1)Many say it clashes with 1 Cor 11 which says that a woman praying or prophesying without a veil disgraces her head. That imply that with a veil it is permitted. Yet 14:34 flatly forbids women speaking. -- There is an answer, if one recognizes that St. Paul, especially in regard to the Law, but also on some other things, has two ways of looking, , in which, it is as if one were looking through a tube and saw only what is inside the circle made by the tube, and so he says that the law makes heavy demands, gives no strength, so one must fall. Of course, to be under heavy demands without strength does mean a fall; , in which the circle of the tube is removed, so we see the whole horizon. Then: the law still makes heavy demands and gives no strength. But off to the side, in no relation to the law, is grace, offered even in anticipation of Christ. With it the result is no fall, but spiritual gain. -- Similarly in our present texts, Paul could be focusing in 11:5 on the fact that for her to prophesy without a veil is wrong - he dos not mean to say that with a veil it is permitted. Further, he seems to have in mind doing so as part of the church service. He probably would not object to her prophesying outside of official context. (cf. Doctrinal Congregation, of Oct 25, 1976).

2)Those who say there is a clash resort to varied things, such as saying that 14:34 is an interpolation - but that would have to have happened in the autograph. No indication of that. Others say Paul only objected to women joining in discussion after a prophecy was given. A most radical view would say that 14:34-35 are really a quote by Paul of what his opponents in Corinth say . So in the next lines he angrily rejects their view. (We must admit, there was no punctuation in Paul's day. Hence we must supply quote marks etc. according to sense).

The net result: We cannot use 14:34 to Paul prohibits women's ordination. But we add, that at the last part of 14:34 Paul appeals to the Law. That would probably be Genesis 3:16, which speaks of subjection of women to husbands. So it seems not to be mere social custom he has in mind.

1 Timothy 2:11-12: "A woman must learn in silence, in all submission. I do not permit a women to teach or to dominate over a man, but to be in silence."

COMMENT:This seems to support the strong interpretation of 1 Cor 14:34.


Otranto has proved only that probably a few cases were known of bishops who attempted to ordain women as priests. But he has not shown any scrap of evidence that the Magisterium ever approved. So he has proved nothing on that score. Rather, we have seen abundant texts of Popes, Councils, and Fathers, who strongly reject ordination of women as priests, and even broad texts forbidding them to minister at the altar at all. Abuses have been known in the church in all ages, including our own, and many very extensive. But unless the Magisterium approves, an abuse can never be considered legitimate.

As to deaconesses, Chalcedon does speak of ordination, and some Greek rituals, reported by Morin, do speak of a rite that looks like ordination. Yet there is no proof this was ever intended as the Sacrament of Orders. The prayer of ordination does not seem to be anything more than a call for the Holy Spirit to help her carry out her ministry, which at most would have been in giving the Chalice to the people. And in view of the great confusion about the diaconate which we saw, we conclude there never was any such attempt. Further, these things happened only in the East, not at all in the West, and were ever approved by the Magisterium.


The same Mary Ann Rossi who translated the article by Otranto, provides also what she calls an "Abstract" of a slide lecture he gave in the Washington area during 1991.

The evidences he provides in it are almost all the same as those we saw above. He adds just a few quite unclear things, chiefly these: There is an inscription from about 491 or 526 in Interamna in central Italy which speaks of an . There is another from the 9th century in Rome. However Otranto does not offer any proof that these were any more than the wives of bishops. There is also a Novella of Emperor Justinian, 535 AD, which speaks of the function of deaconesses. But Otranto does not offer any evidence of precisely what functions they had. He recalls also some grave excesses by Spanish abbesses who even heard confessions - this was strongly condemned, as Otranto says, by Pope Innocent III (1198-1216 PL 116. 356). He also cites an Epistle of Gregory the Great mentioning an abbess who refused to wear monks' garb, instead using the clothing usually worn by . However Otranto admits that this could easily mean merely the wives of priests, of which the same Gregory the Great speaks elsewhere ( 4. 12).

Otranto gives away his bent when he cites from the (PG 28. 264) which some attribute to St. Athanasius, in which it is said that according to the abstract of his lecture,"the virgins are invited to bless the bread three times with the sign of the cross, to give the thanksgiving and to pray: these are acts that may be construed as a eucharistic celebration." In all scholarly research there are two phases: 1) collect all possible data. Otranto and many others do well enough in this phase; 2) exercise good judgment in interpreting it. Here Otranto fails sadly. We underlined the word - it is not in the original language text at all. In context, the passage speaks merely of virgins, like nuns,"when you are at table," making the sign of the cross three times over the bread. This is just an ordinary meal, by virgins seated at table. No mention of a chalice of wine etc. No one sits down to celebrate Mass, unless he be crippled or ill. Really this is just a sort of grace before meals, like our common,"Bless us O Lord, and these thy gifts... ." It is simply Otranto's great zeal to promote ordination of women that makes him strain and diligently collect scraps about abuses and about an ordinary grace before a meal.

After all these scraps he admits, as he did in the larger article, that his data are: "few and meager" and are also "rather sparse."

But most importantly, again he ignores the fact that it is not abuses that determine doctrine, but the Magisterium. No amount of abuses can determine doctrine. And the doctrinal statements, of which we saw many, are entirely uniform in condemning ordination of women.